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Ursprungligen postat av LightFromMars
Thank you very much for all your interesting answers!!
I have contacted Mikael Sandlin, he thinks auto starts are about ~0,5 seconds faster than volt starts.
I would like to write something positive about racing times:
I am actually betting gallop races since many years. When Corona started last year, Sweden was the only country to host horse races, so I got interested in Swedish trotting. And I am still well into it, because of the racing times.
In the USA the so called ‘speed figures’ are standard in gallop and are used by all experts and newspapers. The reason why they work well is that the US dirt tracks have almost all the same form and length. The same is true for Scandinavian trotting tracks!!
This makes them pretty much comparable. Of course there are differences in the conditions, weather, time of the year and so on. But if you look on the last 20-30 races of a horse, you can get a rough idea on its capability by observing its racing times.
Once I have done that, I know which horses are the best, if they all would have their best form.
So you could now say, that’s never the case. But I don’t care. I am looking for underestimated horses I can use for the Trio (trifecta). And as two or three horses are normally get disqualified in every race and the form of a horse is not really predictable, it works quite well over a long time.
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There are a lot of things that don't transfer well from gallop to harness racing and vice versa ( which in fact is why I am totally un-fascinated by betting on gallop ).
The significance of times is one of those major ones.
And about auto vs volt. In different classes this difference will be different.
Of course it is up to you to decide for yourself. We are only trying to save you time by not pursueing something that will not work.
No long term winning punter on swedish harness racing lets times be anything more than a minor factor in their handicapping.
You talk about getting a rough idea...and that is my point exactly. What you can get from time analysis in swedish harness racing is dwarfed by many other factors. And those "times" when times in fact tell you something significant about the difference in capacity...you might as well just look at the betting distribution.
Or put in a shorter way: There is too much noice in the time analysis of nordic harness racing for there to be any value to be extracted.
And also, tracks are much more different than you might think. Some wear the hoofs down more than others which makes shoe or shoeless racing very different from track to track. And the list goes on and on!